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JESC 2007: voting analysis

Tonight, the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2007 took place in Rotterdam, Netherlands and saw Belarus winning for the second time with Alexey Zhigalkovich and his song S druzyami. As always, we offer the real Song Contest freaks a close look on the statistics.

Please note: in all statistics concerning points given and received, the 12 points every country scored automatically are not included.  

Quickies

  • For the first time, a country managed to win the contest twice
  • For the first time, Greece finished last
  • For the third year running, the winning song was performed last
  • With the winner being only one point ahead of the runner-up, it was the closest voting ever

Voting statistics

Belarus has received points from all countries but Cyprus, all the other countries gave at least four points and four times the twelve points. The runner-ups from Armenia were obviously polarizing: they received seven times the douze, twice the ten, once eight, seven and five - and four times not a single vote. Although with 17 countries competing it is very likely that a country receives points from all countries (since every country has to give points to ten out of 16 other countries), only Russia and Serbia managed to do so - they finished third and sixth respectively.

Records

Belarus has scored an average of 8.56 points - the lowest average score of a winner ever. On the other hand, Armenia has scored the second highest average of points of a runner-up with 8.50. Apart from the first contest in 2003, Armenia is also the most succesful debuting country ever reaching second place. The other debutants Georgia and Bulgaria also did quite well finishing fourth and seventh respectively while Lithuania finished only 13th. Countries that have achieved their best results so far are Serbia and F.Y.R. Macedonia while Greece, Portugal and Belgium have reached their worst placings so far.

The runing order

For the third year in a row, the country that performed last finished first. Last year, the songs that reached the top 3 were all performed in the second half, this year it is less obvious that songs performed late do better: the Armanian entry was performed third and finished second, the Serbian entry that came third was number nine of the evening and the fourth placed song from Gerogia has even opened the show. On the other hand, the songs performed at number 14, 15 and 16 did not reach the top 10 with Greece coming last. Of course, the question comes up if the new voting system, which means that you can vote right after the show begins, does affect the results after all. But there is one thing that will probably never change: the song performed second did not do well at all: Belgium finished third from last.

Diaspora voting

That's a sensitive subject. First of all it has to be pointed out that giving points to a neighbouring country does not necessarily mean that there are "political" reasons - the televoters may have also just thought that the song they have voted for was the best one! Nevertheless, there were some friendly neighbours as always: Belgium has received its only points from the Netherlands, Greece has received its only points from Cyprus (even if only two this year). Georgia and Armenia have exchanged their twelve points while the Netherlands have recieved their highest mark from Belgium, Russia from Belarus, F.Y.R. Macedonia from Bulgaria and Serbia and Cyprus from Greece. Nevertheless, there are other examples that don't prove diaspora voting: Malta gave its 4 - 12 points to Eastern countries, Sweden its top 4 marks. Furthermore, Sweden managed to reach the first half of the scoreboard the second year in a row without any other Scandinavian country taking part.

Belarus has scored an average of 6.72 points per non-former USSR country. If the other five countries had given Belarus the same average amount of points, Belarus would have probably not won the competition (it has to be taken into consideration that the "missing" points would have been given to other countries!). Nevertheless, with six former USSR countries taking part, this statistic is rather inaccurate: mathematically, it is very unlikely to be able to expect these countries give to the same average amount of points than the others.


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maltese fan [22767]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 19:48:51

has anyone found the video of One World on youtube o in any other place? because I can't find it and i would like to listen to it! :(


Stevan Peric [43569]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 15:10:52

NEVENA IS THE BEST!!!
Belarus song is nice but they won just because there was 7 of 17 countries from ex USSR. Their clan was the bigest this year.
If next year wuld be all 6 ex Yugoslavia countries, the winner will be from that part of Europe.
PS Armenian song was stupid...


Night Elf [43921]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 14:26:37

Milan S.

Don't forget that Edin is Serbo hater, he confessed... he always find a way to say something bad about Serbia on every contest so don't pay attention !
Armenia didn't receive pts from 4 countries, Belarus didn't receive pts from Cyprus only, and Serbia receive pts from all countries.

I didn't liked Armenian song, but I am glad that we receive a pts fro ALL countries, that proves that song is GOOD.

WELL DONE NEVENA !!!


Milan S. [19572]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 14:21:50

@Edin
Will you get over "Orthodox European countries" for once? Serbia was 3rd with just one neighbour and not a single "Serbian-diaspora country" participating in the JESC! You still don't think that the quality of the song matters after all?


blue alibi [23783]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 11:06:58

i have never seen an 8 year old bimbo b4 in my life. thankx to russia i have now lol




Milan S. [19572]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 10:20:29

People!
Doesn't anybody think that the issue of "Who gets to sing last wins" is a bit more serious than diaspora voting in the JESC? I mean, it happened for the third time in a row! How probable is that it was by accident?


Kathrin Schmidt [43233]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 09:31:00

I really begin to hate this message board. I wanted to post another comment in regard to the JESC which don't include spam or foul words but I always get the following message when I push the "React" button:

"Sorry, (some) the contents of your reaction your reaction is either marked as "spam" or foul language. Please use the news reactions only to reply to the news article above."

That isn't the first time something like this happen. The filter software this site use is not perfect. It doesn't filter a lot of foul language and on another hand prevent the post of comments which don't break any rules. It really should be improved.


Kathrin Schmidt [43233]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 09:08:29

I personally like the song from Belarus more than the one from Armenia. But I although think that a lot of songs where better than those two.

I don't think that Belarus has an unfair advantage in comparison to Armenia. Armemia got a lot of diaspora votes, too. They both have it easier to get points than some other countries.


cst 003 [29480]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 07:59:53

I am VERY VERY angry with the resaults.
It was OK with Belarus in 2005, even last year, but this trash to win the contest in Rotterdam...it is irritating...
Very dissapointed with my favourites [b]Armenia[/b] to lose the prize for just 1 point, they deserved to win it was BY FAR the best song in jesc alongside with Lithuania, Georgia, Bulgaria & Ukraine.
Our last place was fair enough, I suppose, it wasn't the worst song (IMO), Malta's was ever worse, but we deserved what we got, Made In Greece thought that jESC is a circus, but this is not exactly like that. On the other hand the 2 points from Cyprus must clear away all the discussions of exanging points... Cyprus shut all the louding mouths, and we must do so sometime...

[b]ARMENIA[/b] you are the one.
My number one & we ALL love you!!!!!!!!!!!


david florez [43574]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 07:41:54

the only thing right here is that the contest works :is fun, but the voting kills everything, i'm not from europe and i can say that for me the winner should be Armenia, the reason why belarus won was because the diaspora and maybe as somebody said the language is if not the same almost between the ex sovietic republics, besides is a junior contest saiyng awful things about a kid, grow up.

well and excelent show and althoug Greece, Cyprus and Belarus weren't as good as the rest for me and Armenia, Sweden, Serbia, Bulgaria, Belgium, Ukraine and Macedonia did it really good the kids had fun, they meet a new culture and friends that's the good part for all of them.


j s [33774]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 05:47:41

etf ets
you can see the macedonian performance at
url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S57zo-s_sNw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S57zo-s_sNw/url]
enjoy ;-)


etf ets [38011]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 01:20:55

I WANT TO SEE THE MCEDONIAN AND THE SONG FROM BELARUS...
PLEASE SEND ME A LINK
PLEASE PLEASE
I WANT TO SEE THEM PLEASE


Night Elf [43921]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 01:14:16

Benjamin Johnson

I just want to ask you one thing... I mean all you ESC fans...
Do you honestly believe that Molitva wasn't a great hit in Montenegro, Croatia, Slovenia, F.Y.R. Macedonia, BiH...more than any other song from ESC... ???

Yes they are our neighbor, and yes they give us 12 pts (I mean i vote for Molitva too since I am from Montenegro) but did you ever thought that no other song we liked better than Molitva ????

Do you know how HUGE hit Molitva is all ex YU countries, and if you count all ESC songs in these countries you could not hear them all together as you could hear Molitva on every station...

So if Molitva is hit, people love it and vote for it, whats there unfair...


Benjamin Johnson [10217]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 01:07:59

No, these shows would not be boring it would be fair!!!!

When I was watching the voting I predited Russia will give high marks to their ex-USSR neighbours and Serbia and FYR Macedoina 12 points exchange before the spokes person said the points!!!


Night Elf [43921]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 01:05:22

Sandra Åhlander

What do you want to say, that in Sweden there are more Serbs than Swedish people ???

Com one people, do you honestly believe that there are so much more Serbs in Europe that any other people... Please grown up....


Benjamin Johnson [10217]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 01:02:20

@ Night Elf

Of course like the east songs, but i am talking about their neighbourly tatical voting every year! Also migrents from East Europe always voting for their home countries regardless of the song and thus ruining ESC,JESC and EDC!!!


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 00:53:41

To you who says that ot was only ex-yugolav countries: do you have heard abou DIASPORA VOTING?????????


Alexa B [13619]
Mon 10 Dec 2007 00:41:32

There were only 2 ex-Yugo countries this year so you can shove your story up ...you know where!
BUT
the ex-SSSR countries were definitely dominating the contest and the only reason Belarus won is because of that!


Night Elf [43921]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 23:57:46

Benjamin Johnson

If eastern Europe form their own contests than you're show would be boring for you. I mean every year you give to east highest pts, so that probably means that you like this songs from east... am I right???

I mean if you don't like eastern songs why do you vote for east every year, and if you do like this songs why are you complaining that they done so well. (As long as I can remember UK give 8 pts to Ukraine, 10 pts to Greece, and 12 to Turkey... thats pretty much east)
Just don't get it !!!


Benjamin Johnson [10217]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 23:40:22

The winner of JESC 2008 is: Russia!!!
The winner of ESC 2008 is: ether an ex-Yugslav or ex-USSR country!!

Finaly the wnner of EDC 2008: see above!!

EBU is killing these events slowly!!!

Sorry but I have to say this: 'East Europe' are the Eurovision cheats!!! Why don't they form their own contests?!


Nils Schrijvers [43737]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 23:30:50

Who wrote : ESC 2008 will end with the same results, can add : 2009 as well....
Don't worry about 2010 : ESC won't exist anymore...


Neal Harris [21189]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 21:13:51

While this page was opening I tried to predict who had won. Didn't watch the programme, didn't hear any of the songs and I guessed an ex-USSR. Hmm.


Nikola Jovic [10583]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 20:48:25

@Sandra

I usually like Swedish ESC songs the most! But not this time @ JESC. And Serbia should withdraw 2 then cause we can't win w/out Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Austria, Montenegro, Germany etc.

Grow up! It's just a one night event when children from all around Europe share some fun moments that they will never forget.


Sandra Åhlander [32445]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 19:56:08

@NIGHT ELF: BECAUSE IT`S NOT THE SHOW WHICH ARE THE PROBLEM! IT WAS GREAT! NO, IT`S THE VOTING WHICH ARE THE BIG JOKE!!!!!


Night Elf [43921]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 19:26:57

Sandra Åhlander

Why are you watching this show if it's A BIG JOKES!!!


Night Elf [43921]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 18:28:39

Sandra Åhlander

Only because you liked Swedish song doesn't mean that it was the best, or that they were robbed. As long as I can see you are the only one here saying that...
JESC is a great show, its not much about winning but having great time, and if you watch show last night you could see that all children had a great time... they were singing along with a winner from Belarus, and that's the most important.

I don't see why Sweden should stop participating in JESC or ESC, just because you say so ??? If you don't like this show just don't watch it and let the others to enjoy in songs and good time.


Stephen - Scotland [38766]
Sun 9 Dec 2007 17:48:58

Thankfully the UK has sense and doesn't compete in this poor excuse of a contest. How any adult can be a fan of this is beyond me.


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